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An Entrepreneur’s Hunger for Revenue (or Money)

Last week I met this really successful entrepreneur. I’m shan’t reveal his name but I’ll say he’s this really successful and famous entrepreneur in Malaysia. I’ve heard loads of things about him before I met him… how he built his business from scratch and how he’s very “China Man” in the sense that as long as any business decision would make him good money he would do it. And China Man in the sense that he runs his business very efficiently with very little wastage.

I met him with that expectation but what I saw still blew me away.

You see when I met him I happened to witness how he was chasing a deal for RM30,000. He was personally dealing with a client and pitching ideas on why this client should spend this RM30,000 with him instead of his competitor. He fought for it really hard. Now forget the fact that he was a good salesmen because most successful entrepreneurs I know can pitch their products well.. but he looked like he was desperate for the money… almost as if his entire business depended on this one RM30,000 deal.

When I went back to the office after meeting him I did some research on his company. I learned that his company is fully owned by him, and makes RM35,000,000 a year in profits. I was blown away… not by the fact that this private company he personally owns make so much money, but the fact that in spite of him earning so much money and in spite of that RM30,000 being a tiny percentage of his profit let alone revenue… he fought for it so hard with so much hunger.

Lessons I took for myself

It made me reflect on myself and how I hungry I was for more sales/revenues or money when I conduct business. I do admit that I’m a bit less cost conscious as I was when I first started Nuffnang. Today we’re more lenient on spending money especially if we think there is a good cause for it (like bringing our team to Sunway Lagoon for a day out). And yes I still have a great amount of respect for money, careful not to take it for granted.

When I first started, one of our “big” deals in the early days was RM10,000. Today whenever I hear a sales person say “Ohh the deal I closed? Not big la.. just RM15,000”, I always remind him that the smallest deal I ever did was RM100 (and I had to work really hard for it because that RM100 meant a lot to that one client) and that no money was too small. I never use the phrase “Small money”.

But when you compare me with this so called China Man entrepreneur who is well rich and in his 50s, he displayed a lot more hunger for money than I ever have.

I respect wealthy people who respect money. That doesn’t mean that I don’t think they should not spend on business class air tickets or expensive cars or watches… it just means that they treat money as something very finite… no matter how much they have.

But today I learn that I respect even more wealthy and successful people who fight for every dollar in business no matter how much money they have. Wouldn’t you like to be a shareholder in a business like that? A business driven by an entrepreneur that fights for every dollar like it was his last.

Yes of course too much of one thing could be bad… so in practice I think we all have to strike a balance… but I think the mindset of having respect for money whether it’s yours or someone else’s is important. If you have this respect for every dollar your client spends with you then wouldn’t it motivate you to make sure your client gets good value for the money he or she spends with you?

Or if you’re an employee and you have this respect for every dollar your company spends on your salary, then wouldn’t you want to work hard to make sure you bring value of your own… and in doing so make you a more important part of the company and be up for future raises and promotions? Having this respect for money I believe just brings you more money.

I hope I not only could practice this but also pass this mindset down to my team… and to my kids.


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Things Shorty & Fatty Say #310, #311: Flammable

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Shorty has been renovating our study and Fighter’s room. She repainted the walls and we’ve had to stay away from the rooms for a few days because of the strong fresh paint smell. I happened to do some research to see if there is a quicker way to get rid of the new paint smell.

Me: Shorts. Did you know that you can light a candle and leave it in the room for hours and it will help take away the smell?

Shorty: Really? *skeptical*

Me: Serious. Don’t believe go Google it.

Shorty: *checks Google* YOU’RE RIGHT IT DOES!!!

Me: Yes… it removes all bad odors too. So next time if I fart you can just light a candle in the room.

Shorty: Yes… except that your fart is probably flammable. So it’ll catch fire.

Me: Funny.

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We’re at the GSC Media Appreciation Night where we got to watch Secret Life of Walter Mitty

Shorty: Look they gave us free popcorn.

Me: Yep.

Shorty: Is it caramel or salted?

Me: Caramel.

Shorty: YAY! That’s what you like right?

Me: No… I like salted popcorn. Shows how much you know about me after so many years of marriage Shorty.

Shorty: HEY … how I know… you like caramel too.

Christmas Decorations in the Nuffnang and ChurpChurp Offices 2013

Hi Guys,

Remember last year when we had the competition among departments in our office to see who had the best Christmas Decorations? Well this year we did the same and boy did the teams up the ante.

I’ve posted some pictures on my Dayre but here are the rest of them. This is the front door.

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There was a little sign board for Candyland and Techland. Candyland is the design team’s theme.

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This is what Candyland looks like.
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Candyland has a big rainbow too.

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On to the rest of the office. Here’s the admin and sales teams.

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The ChurpChurp team decided to dedicate their decorations to the popular memes of 2013. One of them being the Wrecking Ball. So they put in a Wrecking Ball and had all our faces hanging on the ball. I had Fighter on my back.

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This is a reindeer made out of our water jugs.

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This is a home made Christmas tree. Made with 1,600 little strings put together. Goodness it’s beautiful.

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Look at the right side of this picture, you’ll see the golden Wrecking Ball.

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The Tech Team here made reindeers out of LCD monitors and had a Santa’s sledge on it.

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What was really awesome about the Tech Team is that when we visited them they did a bit of a flashmob. Started with one guy singing a Christmas song then everyone joined in.

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The decorations were really really awesome.

I love my team and the effort they put in for things like this. Our office is the most Chrismas-sy place to me this year 🙂

Things Shorty & Fatty Say #309: Shorty’s Real 5th Anniversary Gift

Remember when I said in the previous entry that I bought Shorty a Chanel for her 5th Anniversary present. Well that didn’t turn out. Shorty wanted a Vintage Chanel and it was ordered from a site in the US. Some time after she ordered it she was told that they couldn’t deliver to Malaysia. So they refunded us and before Shorty had a chance to buy it again… someone else had bought it.

Shorty was super upset. So when I was in London earlier I decided to go to Chanel on Bond Street and buy her one. I was with my friend Thanee who got his wife one too 🙂

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It wasn’t an easy decision though. I thought of picking a bag and just surprising Shorty with it when I got home but I didn’t want to risk buying a bag she didn’t like. So the decision to purchase this bag took almost an hour to make. A lot of Line messages and a bunch of video calls.

These are some excerpts of the conversations we had on Line on it.

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After I bought it I told her that the box was too big for me to bring back on the flight so I was going to unwrap everything… which was a waste because it was so beautifully wrapped. So instead I took pictures of the package and also a video of the unwrapping.

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Then Shorty wanted to buy me a nice present for my 5th anniversary. But I told her not to because I think I’ve got everything I need already and I think we’ve already spent enough money for the year.

 

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The Cartier and Rolex was another gift idea I was considering for our 5th Anniversary. Well I notice Shorty doesn’t have a nice dress watch. So I thought of getting her one and I thought it would have really nice meaning because when you give someone a watch you give that person “time”. To add to that, earlier this year when she had pre-eclampsia what she did by staying in the hospital was to give Fighter time in her tummy to grow.

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At the end of this experience I really don’t know how college kids make the decision to buy a Chanel so easy but man for us… it was a hard one.

I’m just glad Shorty loved it and heck after 5 years of holding off me buying a Chanel I guess it’s way overdue. Some of my friends buy Chanels for their girlfriends within the first few months of dating. They joke “This Tim ah… before he buy a Chanel for a girl he must be with her for 5 years, marry her first and have her give him a son before he bought her a Chanel”. Well the truth is we’ve had many other luxuries but yeah I’m glad Shorty and me fulfil each other in lots of other ways to make up for my delayed Chanel… heh.

Oh here’s the video that I took of the unboxing just for Shorty to see to give her a bit of the unwrapping experience.

How A 27 year old Brought Chatime to Malaysia

This is the second edition of my friend’s success stories thanks to Malaysiaresume.com 🙂

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From left: Me, Bryan and Pierre and a conference in Jakarta this year.

Before I actually met Bryan I had actually heard of him many times. He was this upcoming entrepreneur who was making waves and doing really well. He was constantly in the media. So one day out of interest I decided to follow him on Instagram and see what his life was like. The impression I got was that this guy really knew how to live life.

It was only months after I had followed him on Instagram that I had first met him. We were at a conference in Jakarta called Taipan, that invited entrepreneurs to learn business-building skills. We had heard of each other before so I guess it wasn’t hard hitting it off. I was impressed at how down to Earth Bryan was and learned later he came from really humble roots.

Bryan Loo grew up in Perlis, the smallest state in Malaysia. His first entrepreneurial venture was at the tender age of 7. He was good at drawing comic books and found friends who were willing to pay to read his comics. So to get a bit more pocket money he would sell his comic books at RM0.50 each to his friends. This comic book venture went really well until his parents found out and decided to raise his pocket money. Having enough pocket money he then stopped selling his comics (or we might have ended up with our own Malaysian Stan Lee).

Bryan likes to say he grew up in a business environment. His parents owned an air-conditioning business that operated out of a shop lot and they lived right on the top floor of that shop lot. One thing Bryan didn’t like doing though was studying. He ended with less than impressive grades after he finished secondary school and his pre-university year. Grades that he said were so bad he couldn’t even get into Sunway Monash.

Eventually though Bryan found that the academic requirements for Monash University in Melbourne was a lot lower and he managed to get in. He graduated with a biotech degree and initially stayed in Australia to work. His first job was a sales one in Melbourne. He had to approach pregnant ladies to sell them stem cell and umbilical cord storage, a concept that was still quite new at that point in time. Sales… as Bryan would find, wasn’t his kind of thing. Nevertheless he stayed in that job for two years before he finally quit.

When Bryan quit, he returned to Malaysia and told his father that he wanted to start a business. He was done being an employee. His father was supportive and took him overseas to 5-6 different trade shows to see the kind of businesses that they could start together. At the end of their circuit of trade shows, Bryan decided that he wanted to do something in F&B because he felt it was more recession proof that other businesses. More specifically, he saw an opportunity in beverages. Up until then, Malaysians were focused on drinking coffee but the market for tea was still very underdeveloped.

With that in mind, Bryan flew to Taiwan to look for a tea franchise to bring to Malaysia. Taiwan, he felt, is the world capital of milk tea. The island has 10,000 milk tea outlets island wide and 180 different brands. Bryan started by approaching all the top brands of milk tea in Taiwan but was subsequently rejected one by one. They were all not interested in expanding to Malaysia.

Disappointed, Bryan flew back to Malaysia. Two weeks later, he met up with a Taiwanese friend of his who showed him pictures of Taiwan on his camera. One particular picture was of a milk tea brand called Chatime. A brand that believed in global expansion and a brand that Bryan had actually never approached before. Motivated again, Bryan Googled for the phone number of Chatime’s HQ and eventually got put to the CEO. Bryan pitched the prospects of the Malaysian market and the next day Chatime’s CEO took the next flight down to Malaysia to see him.

Two months later, Bryan opened his first Chatime in Pavilion. It was the 10th of August 2010 and while Chatime would prove to be a big hit, it would take him 6 months to learn the ropes of the business before he opened his second outlet. In that 6 months he sent out a total of 90 proposals to listing departments all over Malaysia and before he knew it they had all come back with opportunities.

Bryan was certain of one thing though. He didn’t believe in franchising aggressively. He believed that for a franchise to do well and to do the brand justice, it has to be controlled by only one owner because “nobody can treasure your brand as much as you do”. With the limited resources he had though, Bryan had no choice but to franchise out some outlets. He came up with a rule that for every 2 franchises he sold he would open 1 of his own outlets. Eventually when he hit 5-7 outlets of his own, he had enough cash flow to stop giving out franchises and open more of his own outlets.

Today Chatime has 105 outlets all over Malaysia. They are manned by over 830 staff and all his ground staff are below the age of 25. The oldest he jokes is his sister, at the age of 32.
In just 3 years Chatime Malaysia has grown from one outlet to 100, making it one of the fastest growing F&B brands in Malaysian history. When I asked Bryan what’s next? He said “petrol stations”. In the next 2 years he has plans to roll out Chatime in 100 petrol stations nationwide pushing Chatime to 200 outlets nationwide. Chatime is set to grow even more aggressively in the coming years.

Check out Malaysiaresume.com for more stories on successful Malaysians.

Things Shorty & Fatty Say #309, #310: Say something funny

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Me: Shorts..  when I’m away in Manchester for a week I’ll have limited internet access. Gonna need you to update my blog for me.

Shorty: Whaatt? Why can’t you just schedule some posts.

Me: Some posts about what?

Shorty: Things Shorty & Fatty say or something…

Me: I don’t have left.

Shorty: Sure got wan…

Me: Ok say something funny. Come on say it now.

Shorty: Stupid…

#310

At dinner with my brother and Shorty (and Fighter too).

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Brother: Do you know that they’re coming out with the second part of 300 the movie?

Me: What? 400?

Shorty:  AHH DAMMIT!!! I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT TOO!

Me/Shorty: HAHAHAA

Brother: *ignores*

How Pierre Pang Took Over His Family Business and Took It To A New Level

I recently discovered a site called Malaysiaresume.com that  has a collection of successful Malaysian entrepreneurs and their stories. I thought it would be a great opportunity to contribute a couple of stories as I have a number of really successful friends who are entrepreneurs.

I have so far lined up two stories. One who built his business from scratch and another who took over his family business and is making it even bigger. I’m going to start with the latter first, because as most of you know, Pierre’s like a buddy of mine that I see all the time. I first met Pierre through work. He was a marketing manager for Mister Potato and a big believer in blog advertising. He wanted to run a campaign on Nuffnang and on my blog because I had found out, he was a loyal reader of my blog.

The place we first met? He called me for a breakfast meeting at the KL Hilton. I remember breakfast that day costing just the both of us RM70 per person or something. We somehow hit it off though. While we started with that first meeting mostly talking about work we ended up meeting up for many more meals and eventually became really good friends. Then we started sharing the same hobbies, one of them today being golf and became even closer.

Today I look back and I once said to him “You know ah the first time we met I was wondering to myself  ‘Wah this Mamee fella so high class… breakfast also want to eat at the Hilton’. I had never before had breakfast at the Hilton. He laughed about it… and we now meet often over Roti Canai or Nasi Lemak.

It is through this friendship that Pierre has found the opportunity to tell me his stories over time. I think he has an interesting story that I will share here.

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Pierre’s family business is Mamee Double-Decker, the largest Malaysian snacks company to date, with over RM600 million in annual revenue.

Mamee was born in small town Malacca in the 70s as a partnership between Pierre’s Father (Datuk Wira Pang Tee Chew) and Grandfather (Datuk Pang Chin Hin). Pierre’s grandfather who was introduced to the instant noodle business by his friend sent his son (Pierre’s father) to Japan to learn the trade. When Pierre’s father returned they started their instant noodle business under the brand “Lucky”. That however failed largely due to their inexperience.
The Pangs however persisted and with the lessons they learned from Lucky, they then started Mamee. Pierre’s grandfather decided on the name because “mommy” was the first word most of us learned to say. In the early days, Mamee did moderately well.

Then something happened one day that would change the future of Mamee. Pierre’s father was out making deliveries when he saw some kids eating raw instant noodles right out of the packet. He thought if kids were already eating raw instant noodles out of a pack, why don’t make a noodle snack just for the kids.

 

My friend Pierre is among the new generation of the Pang family to take over the management of Mamee. Pierre grew up in Malacca while watching on the sidelines as his father grew Mamee. He then went on to get his degree in Information Systems from the University of Melbourne. The unwritten rule among the Pangs was that before any family members could come back to work in Mamee they must first spend a minimum of three years earning working experience from the outside world.

This suited Pierre just fine. His passion was always in advertising so when he returned from Australia, he found a job at Ogilvy. He spent two years in Ogilvy learning the ropes of advertising, handling key accounts like Lenovo, IBM and HSBC. Always an entrepreneur at heart, Pierre left Ogilvy to start his own creative and digital signage agency 8dge, which he explains was one of the best times of his life. Three years into growing 8dge though, his Father told him that it was time for him to come back and work on the family business.

Five years after graduation, Pierre finally joined Mamee. He didn’t start at a top level position but rather as a brand manager of Mister Potato to earn his salt. Prove himself he did. When he took over as Mister Potato’s brand manager, Mister Potato was merely at half the market share of their main competitor Pringles. Three years under Pierre’s leadership, he had grown Mister Potato’s market share to double that of Pringles.

Part of Pierre’s strategy to grow Mister Potato as a brand was to become the Global Snacks Sponsor for Manchester United. The sponsorship deal which had Manchester United players endorse Mister Potato put Mister Potato in the eyes of 4.7 billion people who watch the Barclays Premier League.

Confident with Pierre’s abilities after Mister Potato’s success, Pierre’s father put him in his current role: General Manager of Sales and Marketing  to work his magic on the rest of Mamee’s brands. One of his key projects, to save the very first product that Mamee started with: Mamee Instant Noodles.

Mamee instant noodles had always been number 2 in market share in Malaysia. In recent years however, intense competition from aggressive Indonesian players threatened to dethrone them. The Indonesian brands had more money and were not afraid to spend it to “buy” market share in Malaysia. Mamee’s instant noodles division faced two choices: Continue to lose market share or cut its own price leading to a potential loss.

Like all entrepreneurs, Pierre decided to do something different. He traveled around Asia to China, Taiwan, and Japan to find inspiration on what to do with Mamee instant noodles. When he returned, an idea had taken hold in his head. While the instant noodles market in Malaysia was a big and growing one, it was also very backward when it came to innovation. Rather than compete head to head with all its rivals, he decided to pivot Mamee and rebrand it as a more premium instant noodles called Mamee Chef.

Mamee Chef was a very differentiated product. Its noodles were made with a new machine that he convinced Mamee to spend RM60 million on, creating better texture and a premium quality feel to it. It contained condiments like dehydrated prawns to accompany its different flavours, making the consumer feel that this wasn’t just instant noodles. You were eating a proper meal. Last but not least, he worked with Dato Chef Ismail, a celebrity chef in Malaysia to create the flavours of the soup to make sure it was something Malaysians would love.

Mamee Chef proved to be an overnight success. In the first few months, it was flying off the shelves faster than Mamee could restock it. While the instant noodle industry grew 2% annually, Mamee Chef was growing at ten times that.

I chose to write a story about my friend Pierre because of his inspiring story. I have many friends who have been blessed enough to be able to inherit a family business but he not just inherited it, he helped grow it. That’s what entrepreneurs do right? We take whatever we have and we make something better out of it. That’s why Pierre inspires me and I hope his story inspires you and anyone else who has a family business no matter how big or small.

 

Check out Malaysiaresume.com for more Malaysian success stories.

Things Shorty & Fatty Say #308: Our 5th Anniversary present

Before I start today’s Things Shorty & Fatty Say… here’s a picture of Fighter.

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And here’s a picture of him laughing right after 🙂

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Hehehe he’s such an angel.

In case you’re wondering where this photo is from, it’s from his blog on Dayre. You can also download the Dayre app and follow his blog. Check it out.

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So our 5th Anniversary just passed and Shorty and I were supposed to buy each other presents. The present I decided to buy her was a Chanel. Why? There’s some history to it. Since we first got together, Shorty has had all sorts of peer pressure to buy a Chanel. All her friends had one.

I always said that I could afford her one but we should pace ourselves with the luxuries we had. So I bought her Marc Jacobs, LV, Miu Miu and all sorts of other brands first, but never Chanel.

Shorty:* Looking at a really nice Chanel online*  OH MY I LOVE THIS!

Me: Okay I’ll buy for you…

Shorty: Really? But it’s a Chanel.

Me: Yes but it’s our 5th Anniversary. I think enough time has passed for us as a couple for me to give you a Chanel.

Shorty: Thank you Fatty. Now what do you want?

Me: I don’t know.

Shorty: You’re so hard to buy things for. Everything you want, you just go out and buy it.

Me: Well I want a Ferrari. Don’t have one yet…

Shorty: I can’t afford that 🙁

Some weeks later we’re shopping at Guess in Empire Shopping Mall. Shorty spotted a shirt on sale that she thought was really nice so I was going ahead to buy it. Then I realized that if I used Shorty’s HSBC credit card, I would get an additional 10% discount. Shorty offered to then just pay for my shirt.

Shorty: I buy you present. HEHEHE…

Me: Hehe thank you Shorty. Is this our 5th anniversary present ? (I had previously bought her a Chanel for that and she hasn’t thought of what to buy me yet).

Shorty: No la I where got so cheap-skate.

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Me: Hehe…

How we sometimes forget the greatest asset of our lives: Our parents

For the past 5-6 years or so I’ve often been at colleges to give talks to students. That’s one thing I enjoy doing and I happily do it provided I have the time to and provided that I talk on the only one subject I can talk about. I can’t talk about “How to be successful” or “How to be a millionaire in your twenties” or things like that. I can only talk about my story. How I started Nuffnang, or this thing I call “My lifeline”. My favourite is “My Lifeline” which traces the history of my life ever since I was a baby. The challenges I’ve had since then and all the way till now.

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One story I tend to tell is of my parents. I was 19 years old when I broke up with my girlfriend at the time. I totally deserved her dumping my ass but that’s another topic for another day altogether. Anyway on the day I knew it was completely over, I came home really down. When I walked through my front door my mom happened to see in my face that something was wrong so she asked, and to that I replied “Nothing Nothing” as I avoided eye contact with my mom.

She persisted in asking me until I finally told her that I had just broken up with my girlfriend… and before I knew it, I had burst into tears. She then brought me into a room with my father and they both sat me down and talked me through everything. That was an incident that changed my life… why? Because as trivial as that incident was at the time (I mean everyone breaks up with their teenage girlfriends), it was a down time for me and my parents were there for me at my lowest.

Since then I developed this really close relationship with my parents. So close that I would tell them everything. LITERALLY everything… about which girl I was seeing , what I was doing… heck even when I was studying in London I would send them a long email each week about my life. Now the interesting thing is that I never imagined I could be so open with my parents. For starters they’re very traditional and very conservative. However what I began to learn is that as I shared more and more openly about my life and what the norms of my generation were they became more and more open (although up till today they make me promise not to put a picture of them on my blog). They also became less afraid of me getting in trouble…. because they knew exactly what I was doing and they knew how to give me the right advice for whatever situations I faced.

Then came business. After I graduated, with the support of my parents I got together with Ming to start Nuffnang. Business is really tough. Throughout business there are lots and lots of ups and downs and I can safely say today that my parents played a very big role in my success. I talked through my problems with them and even if we didn’t find solutions to them, it just helped to know that they were as worried about me as I was worried about myself (or the problems I was facing).

My parents are both over 60 now. They’re not getting any younger and I treasure every hour I have left with them. So much that whenever they come down to KL I cancel almost all my plans just to make sure I can spend more time with them. Because I never want to take for granted the limited time I have left with my parents. One day I told my Dad that if he were not around… I would be very very affected. He told me it was a matter of time and I had to learn to survive without them… and yes I know I can carry on without them… just that I know deep inside, the day my parents leave this Earth, a part of me will die.

I’m blessed to have discovered this close and open relationship with my parents. I know I’m not the only one… but  I also know that not everyone has been as lucky as I am. My hope of writing this though is that if you haven’t yet found this joy then go find it. Spend more time with your parents, talk to them openly and don’t be afraid of being judged. Our parents are the only people in this world where no matter what happens, they will always be in our corner. No matter what wrong we do in our lives, the last people who will always be standing in support of us will be our parents. They are indeed the greatest assets that we could have in our lives.

Things Shorty & Fatty Say #306, #307: Dear Lie

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Last weekend, Shorty and I went out with my family to this Japanese restaurant called Ten at Marc Residences. It was a bit of a culinary adventure for us.

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One of the dishes we ordered happened to be a little hot pot bowl with this in it.

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Me: *asking waiter* Excuse me… what’s this?

Waiter: Cod milt…

Me: What?

Waiter: Cod milt…..

Me: Oh… ok (didn’t really get it..) *continues to put it in my mouth anyway*

Me: Hmm… tastes a bit…. like brain..

Shorty: *asking waiter* Excuse me… what did you say that was again?

Waiter: Cod milt.

Shorty: What’s cod milt?

Waiter: Like fish sperm…

Me: *Stops chewing*

Shorty: HAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Me: Fuck… I’ve already half swallowed it.

Shorty: You like it Fatty?

Me: Fuck… feels like a fish came in my mouth now…

Shorty: HAHAHAHAHA

Me: *swallows*… There… I swallowed it. See? Swallowing ain’t that bad…

Shorty: Ya right.

Me: Ok your turn…

Shorty: I don’t feel like eating it now.

Me: Come on Shorty… if I can do it.. you can too.

Shorty: *puts the entire fish sperm blob into her mouth*

Me: HAHAHAHA THAT FACE THAT FACE! COME COME TAKE PICTURE!

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#307

Shorty and I are in the car listening to 90s music. We have this thing where we take turns to choose songs to play from the 90s. I chose the song Dear Lie by TLC if you remember it.

Me: You know what… when I was growing up I thought “Dear Lie” was dedicated to a guy. Like “Lie” is a guy. Not only I notice it literally refers to LIE.

Shorty: OF COURSE LAH!

Me: I didn’t know ma…

Shorty: O RLY? So in the song when it goes “Get out of my mouth…” when exactly did you think it referred to?